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Next Meeting (02/05/2012)

First meeting for February. Plenty to talk about, from CPAC 2012 to the GOP race. Hope to see all the regulars as well as old friends and newbies are always welcome. Cheers for liberty! NOTE: Change of venue for one week only due to Super Bowl XLVI later in the day, St. Augustine’s will not be [...] . . . → Read More: Next Meeting (02/05/2012)

Freedom February

in partnership with

Pikes Peak Economics Club, Liberty on the Rocks & Americans For Prosperity-Colorado present

Freedoms Worth Fighting For A Short Course in the Founding Fundamentals

Featuring Dr. Thomas Krannawitter Renown Constitutional scholar & lecturer

In this three part series of presentations and lectures, we will explore the principles of freedom and the first regime in [...] . . . → Read More: Freedom February

East Nashville Happy Hour

[ February 1, 2012; 6:30 pm to 9:30 pm. ] Wednesday, February first Liberty on the Rocks is now proudly having twice a month social meetups for people interested in furthering the ideas of liberty.  Whether you missed the 3rd Thursday happy hour, or just can’t get enough lively discussion – you’ll enjoy Liberty on the Rocks. Make new friends or meet up [...] . . . → Read More: East Nashville Happy Hour

Taxis Limos and the fight for free markets in Nashville

Last night at Mafioza’s, long time Liberty on the Rocks member, Rod Williams, brought along Mr. Bokhari from the limousine service Metro Livery. It was great for Ali to share his story with our group; you may have heard about Metro Livery’s lawsuit against the City of Nashville for a city regulation that is holding [...] . . . → Read More: Taxis Limos and the fight for free markets in Nashville

‘Kids Aren’t Cars’ Movie Night @ II for School Choice Week!

[ January 26, 2012; 6:00 pm to 8:00 pm. ] Join Liberty on the Rocks and the Independence Institute as we celebrate School Choice Week to promote educational choice and excellence! We will be showing the 9-part short film series Kids Aren’t Cars, which takes a deeper look into the state of public education in America, and the reasons why we are falling [...] . . . → Read More: ‘Kids Aren’t Cars’ Movie Night @ II for School Choice Week!

Liberty@Work

Liberty@Work 2012-13 Want to affect public policy at one of many non-profit organizations across the country? Liberty@Work is a full-time job and professional education program for individuals who want to be advocates for economic freedom at the state level. Through the program, participants will work full-time as employees at one of many public policy organizations [...] . . . → Read More: Liberty@Work

Producer for Film Fellowship

2012 Searle Film Fellowship at Reason.tv Application Deadline: January 27, 2012 Reason.tv – the online video journalism project of the Reason Foundation – is seeking talented individuals interested in advancing the message of Free Minds and Free Markets through video journalism and related multimedia productions. Reason’s top priority is talent: established and aspiring producers, videographers, [...] . . . → Read More: Producer for Film Fellowship

The U.S. Constitution applies to citizens and non-citizens alike. Check the text.

The notion that the U.S. Constitution only protects U.S. citizens is palpably false. It is an indictment of our education system that any American could think such an outrageous thing.

The drafters of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were educated men. They chose their words carefully. They debated over precise word choice. One can assume every word they chose was done with a purpose.

The Constitution and the first ten amendments distinguish between the concept of “people/persons” and the concept of “citizen.” For example, Article I, Section 3, says “No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States…”.

A “person” is therefore different from a “citizen.” Everyone is a person, but only some are citizens.

This distinction is seen again in Article II, Section 1: “No Person except a natural born Citizen … shall be eligible to the Office of President.” Again, you may be a person, but you can’t be President unless you are also a citizen. The drafters of the Constitution knew when they wanted it to apply to people and when they wanted it to apply only to citizens.

The first two paragraphs of Article IV, Section 2, clearly distinguish between “citizen” and “person.” It reads:

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, shall on Demand of the executive Authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime.

Therefore, only citizens are entitled to “privileges and immunities” but all persons charged with a crime who then cross state lines shall “be delivered up.” It does not matter if you are a citizen or not if you are a fugitive. Of course that makes sense.

The point, however, is that the Constitution and its Amendments clearly distinguish between “citizen” and “persons.” “Citizen” means those either born in the United States (and subject to the jurisdiction thereof) or naturalized. “Persons” and “people” mean everyone.

For instance, the First Amendment states that ”Congress shall make no law … abridging … the right of the people peaceably to assemble…”. The First Amendment therefore grants to all people the same protection against certain congressional action, regardless of citizenship status.

The Fourth Amendment, likewise, applies to the “people,” and not just citizens. It reads: “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated …”.

Likewish, the Fifth Amendment:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, … nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

And the Sixth Amendment:

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused [not just citizens] shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

The notion that the U.S. Constitution does not apply to non-citizens is incorrect. It even applies to those in the country illegally. For instance, the government cannot keep an illegal alien locked up indefinitely. An undocumented worker will still get an attorney appointed to him if charged with a crime.  I hope this little blog post helps alleviate that misconception.

In light of the War on Terror, the Patriot Act and the recently passed NDAA, among other legislation, it appears the Constitution doesn’t even apply to citizens any longer.

And that is sad.

BlueCarp

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The U.S. Constitution applies to citizens and non-citizens alike. Check the text.

The notion that the U.S. Constitution only protects U.S. citizens is palpably false. It is an indictment of our education system that any American could think such an outrageous thing.

The drafters of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were educated men. They chose their words carefully. They debated over precise word choice. One can assume every word they chose was done with a purpose.

The Constitution and the first ten amendments distinguish between the concept of “people/persons” and the concept of “citizen.” For example, Article I, Section 3, says “No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States…”.

A “person” is therefore different from a “citizen.” Everyone is a person, but only some are citizens.

This distinction is seen again in Article II, Section 1: “No Person except a natural born Citizen … shall be eligible to the Office of President.” Again, you may be a person, but you can’t be President unless you are also a citizen. The drafters of the Constitution knew when they wanted it to apply to people and when they wanted it to apply only to citizens.

The first two paragraphs of Article IV, Section 2, clearly distinguish between “citizen” and “person.” It reads:

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, shall on Demand of the executive Authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime.

Therefore, only citizens are entitled to “privileges and immunities” but all persons charged with a crime who then cross state lines shall “be delivered up.” It does not matter if you are a citizen or not if you are a fugitive. Of course that makes sense.

The point, however, is that the Constitution and its Amendments clearly distinguish between “citizen” and “persons.” “Citizen” means those either born in the United States (and subject to the jurisdiction thereof) or naturalized. “Persons” and “people” mean everyone.

For instance, the First Amendment states that ”Congress shall make no law … abridging … the right of the people peaceably to assemble…”. The First Amendment therefore grants to all people the same protection against certain congressional action, regardless of citizenship status.

The Fourth Amendment, likewise, applies to the “people,” and not just citizens. It reads: “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated …”.

Likewish, the Fifth Amendment:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, … nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

And the Sixth Amendment:

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused [not just citizens] shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

The notion that the U.S. Constitution does not apply to non-citizens is incorrect. It even applies to those in the country illegally. For instance, the government cannot keep an illegal alien locked up indefinitely. An undocumented worker will still get an attorney appointed to him if charged with a crime.  I hope this little blog post helps alleviate that misconception.

In light of the War on Terror, the Patriot Act and the recently passed NDAA, among other legislation, it appears the Constitution doesn’t even apply to citizens any longer.

And that is sad.

BlueCarp

<img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4099162-2727750878696408630?l=www.bluecarp.com' alt='' [...] . . . → Read More: The U.S. Constitution applies to citizens and non-citizens alike. Check the text.

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